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Nice park. Ok lodge.
Shawnee State Park的点评
点评：My wife I and recently stayed at the lodge in Shawnee state park. We have made it a mini mission to stay at all the Ohio state park lodges. We recently stayed here for a long weekend in October. Review of the lodge:
We arrived Thursday just after 4 the check in time. We still had to wait 20 minutes for our room. The room was clean so no complants. Interestingly there were portable dehumidifiers everywhere plus in our room. In the middle of the night the one in our room started loudly beeping because the water needed to be emptied. Not ideal. We had a small balcony overlooking the woods. Overall the typical amenities. Dormer fridge, single cup coffee maker, TV.
The restaurants in all the lodges are run by the same company. The state of Ohio should rethink this or take new bids when the contract is up. The food quality has varied at the different lodges but this one is not good. Our first night we went for dinner. Very small crowd so not busy. I ordered the grilled porkchops and my wife ordered the rosemary chicken. It came with 2 sides and soup or salad. The soup came after we got our entrees. I prefer my soup before the entree. Our meals were suppose to come with bread but we didn't get ours until we asked for it and again after the entrees.
Both our main entrees were dry and my porkchops were very bad quality. More fat then meat. One of the sides was the vegetable of the day which was baked beans. Just a note to the restaurant. Beans are not a vegetable. They were actually the best thing we ate.
We tried breakfast the next morning. I had a yogurt parfait. Now there was no description of it in the menu but I assumed it would be yogurt, fresh fruit and granola. What I got was yogurt with granola no fruit. My wife had the pancakes and said it was OK. So needless to say we didn't eat here the rest of the weekend. *Look for my reviews on a couple of nice restaurants we found close by.
The front desk people were friendly. A nice lobby sitting area with a fireplace and a patio with a view of the lake. There are the usual pools (indoor / outdoor (closed for our visit)) and arcade. Friday night they showed a movie outside by the fire pits. So overall not bad but not the best lodge in Ohio.
The park trails:
We did the 4 mile park trail. First, I have noticed the state of Ohio is not good with signage that points to the location of the trails from the road or points out the trail heads and where they start. The actual trail markers were well positioned and clearly marked. So that helped. This loop does have some steep grades both up and down. We started at the turkey creek lake beach area parking lot. We followed the blue/red trail markers until the red splintered off. Then we followed the blue / aquamarine markers back to the beginning. It took about 2.5 to 3 hrs at a leisurely pace. A very nice afternoon walk on a beautiful fall day.
The next day we did the lookout trail also called The Dr. E Lucy Braun lookout trail. A nice looping 1.5 mile trail located near the Roosevelt lake. The grades going up and down are not too strenuous. But in one section just past the lookout point there are a group of fallen trees you will have to get around / climb over to continue the loop. They have been there for awhile so I am not sure why they haven't been cleared from the path . Also, dont expect a Kodak moment at the lookout point. At one time there may have been an unobstructed view of the lake and trees on the other side. But now its been filled in with younger trees. There's not much of a view. But there is a nice bench to rest.
One other place we visited was the Copperhead Fire Tower. Now if the state of Ohio is going to point this out as a place to visit you would think there would be appropriate signage. But there is not. We were lucky to have enough cell service to follow our GPS. Its up a very narrow road past a horse camp and continues on a sketchy gravel road. Not a sign to be found even when we arrived at the site. Besides our car there were a couple of dirt bikes and horseback riders. They probably had the better drive/ride up.
The tower itself is a little rundown and covered with local graffiti. The state of Ohio's website says visitors can climb at their own risk. I am guessing they think this releaves them of any legal responsibility. The steps are narrow. Only meant for one person traffic. But once your at the top its a great view of the surrounding valley and hills.
So Ohio if you going to list a site worthy to visit mark it as such and improve the site and roadway. Others wise dont even mention it.
But, in my opinion besides those 2 things I would replace the old fire lookout tower with something along the lines what holden arboretum did called the emergent tower and put a sign saying former site of the copperhead fire lookout tower.
Overall its a nice park worth visiting but the.lodge needs some improvements
We arrived Thursday just after 4 the check in time. We still had to wait 20 minutes for our room. The room was clean so no complants. Interestingly there were portable dehumidifiers everywhere plus in our room. In the middle of the night the one in our room started loudly beeping because the water needed to be emptied. Not ideal. We had a small balcony overlooking the woods. Overall the typical amenities. Dormer fridge, single cup coffee maker, TV.
The restaurants in all the lodges are run by the same company. The state of Ohio should rethink this or take new bids when the contract is up. The food quality has varied at the different lodges but this one is not good. Our first night we went for dinner. Very small crowd so not busy. I ordered the grilled porkchops and my wife ordered the rosemary chicken. It came with 2 sides and soup or salad. The soup came after we got our entrees. I prefer my soup before the entree. Our meals were suppose to come with bread but we didn't get ours until we asked for it and again after the entrees.
Both our main entrees were dry and my porkchops were very bad quality. More fat then meat. One of the sides was the vegetable of the day which was baked beans. Just a note to the restaurant. Beans are not a vegetable. They were actually the best thing we ate.
We tried breakfast the next morning. I had a yogurt parfait. Now there was no description of it in the menu but I assumed it would be yogurt, fresh fruit and granola. What I got was yogurt with granola no fruit. My wife had the pancakes and said it was OK. So needless to say we didn't eat here the rest of the weekend. *Look for my reviews on a couple of nice restaurants we found close by.
The front desk people were friendly. A nice lobby sitting area with a fireplace and a patio with a view of the lake. There are the usual pools (indoor / outdoor (closed for our visit)) and arcade. Friday night they showed a movie outside by the fire pits. So overall not bad but not the best lodge in Ohio.
The park trails:
We did the 4 mile park trail. First, I have noticed the state of Ohio is not good with signage that points to the location of the trails from the road or points out the trail heads and where they start. The actual trail markers were well positioned and clearly marked. So that helped. This loop does have some steep grades both up and down. We started at the turkey creek lake beach area parking lot. We followed the blue/red trail markers until the red splintered off. Then we followed the blue / aquamarine markers back to the beginning. It took about 2.5 to 3 hrs at a leisurely pace. A very nice afternoon walk on a beautiful fall day.
The next day we did the lookout trail also called The Dr. E Lucy Braun lookout trail. A nice looping 1.5 mile trail located near the Roosevelt lake. The grades going up and down are not too strenuous. But in one section just past the lookout point there are a group of fallen trees you will have to get around / climb over to continue the loop. They have been there for awhile so I am not sure why they haven't been cleared from the path . Also, dont expect a Kodak moment at the lookout point. At one time there may have been an unobstructed view of the lake and trees on the other side. But now its been filled in with younger trees. There's not much of a view. But there is a nice bench to rest.
One other place we visited was the Copperhead Fire Tower. Now if the state of Ohio is going to point this out as a place to visit you would think there would be appropriate signage. But there is not. We were lucky to have enough cell service to follow our GPS. Its up a very narrow road past a horse camp and continues on a sketchy gravel road. Not a sign to be found even when we arrived at the site. Besides our car there were a couple of dirt bikes and horseback riders. They probably had the better drive/ride up.
The tower itself is a little rundown and covered with local graffiti. The state of Ohio's website says visitors can climb at their own risk. I am guessing they think this releaves them of any legal responsibility. The steps are narrow. Only meant for one person traffic. But once your at the top its a great view of the surrounding valley and hills.
So Ohio if you going to list a site worthy to visit mark it as such and improve the site and roadway. Others wise dont even mention it.
But, in my opinion besides those 2 things I would replace the old fire lookout tower with something along the lines what holden arboretum did called the emergent tower and put a sign saying former site of the copperhead fire lookout tower.
Overall its a nice park worth visiting but the.lodge needs some improvements
翻译：我和妻子最近在肖尼州立公园的旅馆里住了一晚。我们一直有个小目标，就是住遍俄亥俄州所有州立公园里的旅馆。十月份的一个长周末，我们便选择了这里住宿。以下是关于这家旅馆的评价：
我们周四下午4点刚过就到了，虽然此时正是入住时间，但我们还是等了20分钟才拿到房间。房间很干净，没什么可挑剔的。有趣的是，整个旅馆里到处都放着便携式除湿机，我们的房间里也有一台。半夜时，我们房间里的设备开始发出响亮的蜂鸣声，因为需要排空里面的水。这可不太理想。我们有一个小阳台，可以俯瞰树林。整体来说，设施还算常规：有迷你冰箱、单杯咖啡机以及电视。
所有旅馆里的餐厅都由同一家公司经营。俄亥俄州政府应当重新考虑这一做法，或在合同到期后重新招标。不同旅馆的餐饮质量参差不齐，但这家旅馆的食物实在不怎么样。第一天晚上我们去吃了晚饭。人很少，店里并不热闹。我点了烤猪排，妻子则点了迷迭香鸡。每道主菜都配有两份配菜以及汤或沙拉。汤是在主菜上桌后才送来的，而我习惯在吃主菜前喝汤。按理说我们的餐点里应该有面包，但直到我们主动要求后才拿到，而且还是在主菜吃完之后才送来的。
两道主菜都偏干，我的猪排质量也极差——肥肉比肉还多。配菜之一就是当天的“蔬菜”——也就是烘豆。顺便给餐厅提个建议：豆类其实并不属于蔬菜。不过这些烘豆反倒是我们吃到的最好吃的东西。
第二天早上我们尝试了早餐。我点了一份酸奶百果杯。虽然菜单上没有详细描述这道菜，但我原以为它会包含酸奶、新鲜水果和格兰诺拉麦片。结果我拿到的只有酸奶和格兰诺拉麦片，根本没有水果。我妻子点了煎饼，她说还凑合。所以不用说，那个周末我们再也没有去那里用餐了。*可以看看我对附近几家不错的餐厅的评论。
前台人员很友善。大堂里有一个带壁炉的休憩区，还有一个可以欣赏湖景的露台。酒店配有常规的泳池（室内/室外，我们去的时候室外泳池关闭了）以及游戏厅。周五晚上，他们还就在篝火旁放映了一部电影。总的来说还不错，但算不上是俄亥俄州最好的旅馆。
公园步道：
我们走了那条4英里长的公园步道。首先，我注意到，俄亥俄州在路标设置方面做得不够好——缺乏能够指示小径位置或从公路通往小径起点的标志。不过实际的小径标记位置恰当且清晰易辨，这一点还是有所帮助。这条环线确实有一些坡度较陡的上下坡路段。我们从火鸡溪湖湖滨区域的停车场出发，沿着蓝红相间的路标前行，直到红色路标开始分岔为止。随后，我们沿着蓝色/蓝绿色的标记回到起点。以悠闲的步伐行走，大约花了2.5到3个小时。这是一个秋日里非常惬意的午后散步之旅。
第二天，我们走了观景小径，该小径也被称为“E·露西·布劳恩博士观景小径”。这是一条环形小径，全长1.5英里，位于罗斯福湖附近。沿途的坡度起伏不大，走起来并不费力。不过在观景台稍过一点的地方，有一堆倒下的树木，要继续沿着环路线走就必须绕过或爬过它们。这些树已经倒在那里有一段时间了，我不明白为什么还没有被清理出道路。另外，也别指望在观景台能拍到什么绝美的照片。过去这里或许能毫无遮挡地看到湖面及对岸的树木，但现在那里长满了小树，视野相当有限。不过那里有个不错的长椅，可以坐下来休息一下。我们还参观了铜头火塔。既然俄亥俄州官方将其列为推荐的旅游景点，人们理应能看到相应的指示牌才对。但实际上并没有。我们很幸运，手机信号尚可，因而能够依靠GPS导航。那条路非常狭窄，先经过一个马场，之后则变成一条状况不佳的土路。即便抵达目的地后，我们也没看到任何指示牌。除了我们的汽车外，现场还有几辆越野摩托车以及骑马的人。他们大概能更顺利地开车/驱车而上吧。
这座塔本身有些破旧，还到处都是当地的涂鸦。俄亥俄州政府网站上写着：游客可自行决定是否攀爬，风险自负。我猜他们认为这样就能免除自身的法律责任。楼梯很窄，只能容纳一人通行。不过一旦登上塔顶，就能欣赏到周围山谷与山丘的绝佳景色。
所以，俄亥俄州啊，如果你打算把某个景点列为值得参观之地，那就如实标明，同时把景点及道路条件改善一下吧。其他人甚至都不会提及此事。
不过在我看来，除了这两点外，我还会用类似霍尔登植物园所建的“Emergent Tower”那样的建筑来取代旧的火警瞭望塔，并在旁边立个牌子写明“铜头蛇火警瞭望塔原址”。
总的来说，这是个值得一游的好公园，只是那座小木屋还需要些改善。
我们周四下午4点刚过就到了，虽然此时正是入住时间，但我们还是等了20分钟才拿到房间。房间很干净，没什么可挑剔的。有趣的是，整个旅馆里到处都放着便携式除湿机，我们的房间里也有一台。半夜时，我们房间里的设备开始发出响亮的蜂鸣声，因为需要排空里面的水。这可不太理想。我们有一个小阳台，可以俯瞰树林。整体来说，设施还算常规：有迷你冰箱、单杯咖啡机以及电视。
所有旅馆里的餐厅都由同一家公司经营。俄亥俄州政府应当重新考虑这一做法，或在合同到期后重新招标。不同旅馆的餐饮质量参差不齐，但这家旅馆的食物实在不怎么样。第一天晚上我们去吃了晚饭。人很少，店里并不热闹。我点了烤猪排，妻子则点了迷迭香鸡。每道主菜都配有两份配菜以及汤或沙拉。汤是在主菜上桌后才送来的，而我习惯在吃主菜前喝汤。按理说我们的餐点里应该有面包，但直到我们主动要求后才拿到，而且还是在主菜吃完之后才送来的。
两道主菜都偏干，我的猪排质量也极差——肥肉比肉还多。配菜之一就是当天的“蔬菜”——也就是烘豆。顺便给餐厅提个建议：豆类其实并不属于蔬菜。不过这些烘豆反倒是我们吃到的最好吃的东西。
第二天早上我们尝试了早餐。我点了一份酸奶百果杯。虽然菜单上没有详细描述这道菜，但我原以为它会包含酸奶、新鲜水果和格兰诺拉麦片。结果我拿到的只有酸奶和格兰诺拉麦片，根本没有水果。我妻子点了煎饼，她说还凑合。所以不用说，那个周末我们再也没有去那里用餐了。*可以看看我对附近几家不错的餐厅的评论。
前台人员很友善。大堂里有一个带壁炉的休憩区，还有一个可以欣赏湖景的露台。酒店配有常规的泳池（室内/室外，我们去的时候室外泳池关闭了）以及游戏厅。周五晚上，他们还就在篝火旁放映了一部电影。总的来说还不错，但算不上是俄亥俄州最好的旅馆。
公园步道：
我们走了那条4英里长的公园步道。首先，我注意到，俄亥俄州在路标设置方面做得不够好——缺乏能够指示小径位置或从公路通往小径起点的标志。不过实际的小径标记位置恰当且清晰易辨，这一点还是有所帮助。这条环线确实有一些坡度较陡的上下坡路段。我们从火鸡溪湖湖滨区域的停车场出发，沿着蓝红相间的路标前行，直到红色路标开始分岔为止。随后，我们沿着蓝色/蓝绿色的标记回到起点。以悠闲的步伐行走，大约花了2.5到3个小时。这是一个秋日里非常惬意的午后散步之旅。
第二天，我们走了观景小径，该小径也被称为“E·露西·布劳恩博士观景小径”。这是一条环形小径，全长1.5英里，位于罗斯福湖附近。沿途的坡度起伏不大，走起来并不费力。不过在观景台稍过一点的地方，有一堆倒下的树木，要继续沿着环路线走就必须绕过或爬过它们。这些树已经倒在那里有一段时间了，我不明白为什么还没有被清理出道路。另外，也别指望在观景台能拍到什么绝美的照片。过去这里或许能毫无遮挡地看到湖面及对岸的树木，但现在那里长满了小树，视野相当有限。不过那里有个不错的长椅，可以坐下来休息一下。我们还参观了铜头火塔。既然俄亥俄州官方将其列为推荐的旅游景点，人们理应能看到相应的指示牌才对。但实际上并没有。我们很幸运，手机信号尚可，因而能够依靠GPS导航。那条路非常狭窄，先经过一个马场，之后则变成一条状况不佳的土路。即便抵达目的地后，我们也没看到任何指示牌。除了我们的汽车外，现场还有几辆越野摩托车以及骑马的人。他们大概能更顺利地开车/驱车而上吧。
这座塔本身有些破旧，还到处都是当地的涂鸦。俄亥俄州政府网站上写着：游客可自行决定是否攀爬，风险自负。我猜他们认为这样就能免除自身的法律责任。楼梯很窄，只能容纳一人通行。不过一旦登上塔顶，就能欣赏到周围山谷与山丘的绝佳景色。
所以，俄亥俄州啊，如果你打算把某个景点列为值得参观之地，那就如实标明，同时把景点及道路条件改善一下吧。其他人甚至都不会提及此事。
不过在我看来，除了这两点外，我还会用类似霍尔登植物园所建的“Emergent Tower”那样的建筑来取代旧的火警瞭望塔，并在旁边立个牌子写明“铜头蛇火警瞭望塔原址”。
总的来说，这是个值得一游的好公园，只是那座小木屋还需要些改善。
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