点评:"Maybe we push him very- rough, maybe sub guide is underhelming" -- ผมอาจจะสรุปได้ประมาณนี้หากไกด์ได้ประสานเต็มที่แล้วและอาจจะต้องการไกด์ที่อย่างน้อยก็คุยภาษาอังกฤษได้หรือพยายามเข้าใจที่ลูกทัวพยายามสื่อสารมากกว่านี้
รอบนี้ด้วยจำนวนลูกทัวเยอะ27คน จำเป็นต้องใช้ไกด์4คน
-Head guide Em คือคุยได้ทุกอย่าง fluence english สามารถrequest ปรับเปลี่ยนแผนได้ สามารถคุยได้เรื่องแผนสิ่งที่ทำได้ก็อาจจะต้องบอกว่า1คนทำได้สุดแค่นั้นคือยอดเยี่ยมแล้ว ดูแลทุกคนได้ถือว่าดีมากๆแล้ว(ปกติhead guideจะดูแลประมาณ6-8คน อาจจะ+/-เพิ่มตามจำนวนไกด์อีกทีรอบนี้เรามากันเยอะจริงๆ guideคือ 4คนดูแล27คนเลย) ถ้ามากรุ๊ปเล็กจะแนะนำไกด์คนนี้มากๆ แต่พอเป็นการจัดการแล้วไม่ผ่าน
Our group tour need 4 guide (1head and 3sub guide) to run this trip and the problem appear when you need a bit more fluence English speaker guide than this 3 subguide or maybe more communicate between guides.
- Sub guide 1st--Yuu? the one i always met he is the fastest guide. The3rd day if you reach Torean early before 3pm the head guide promise us to bring us to waterfall at another trekking route. So we the fastest group rush and use around 5-6hr from lake to Torean(start at 6am and reach Torean before 12am) while he reach the Torean around 1 or 2pmThis guide when he reach the Torean he din't bring us anywhere and say "wait for EM or i don't know" (eventhough i see our driver waiting for us at the base for quite some time, yes and we even seen the prayer groups start trekking from here for many hrs before the guide reach Torea) he is already faster than porter so is it ok?
- 2nd guide ??
- 3rd guide suma?? - the one who need the head guide to order before doing anything. Eventhough that decision is better for the tourist(when we nearly reach the base on the 3rd day, there are ajak that many ppl had used already and ok to pay extra but he refuse our trekkers to go to the base and wait for the last group( maybe wait for mr.em? )
4th guide is Em. He is the planner and the leader of this group and who is decide what to do. If he is in trouble or late in any mean the guide is crumble! When you ask other guide a bit harder than yes or no you may got no answer or 'you need to ask Em.' The last trekking to the the base is quite troublesome.
Trekking
1st day i don't know the process but we need to wait for the lead-guide and the people to completely full to start at ringani gate at nearly 10 a.m. that is quite hash for the slowergroup, light is a bit strong, this day we show them already that there are some(around4-5ppl) who can trekking faster than their best guide. This day we eat dinner at nearly 8pm. Because the food were made new at the camp.
2nd day we go to the summit this time the yuu has gone with us to bring the sign when our grup reach the summit that is good already(this mt. is not for the unprepare one with 4km that you need 4hr+for me to reach the sumit). But when we go the lake i don't know why but he give us to follow porter to the lake that make me curious what happen. (for this day many ppl of my group is too tired to go to the planing point for resting, so the guide decide to rest at the lake, i din't know that is good or bad for the last day.) this day we eat lunch at nearly 2pm because we need to wait for the food to cook and the dinner nearly 7pm with a dark sky.
3rd day this day is quite hectic, many of my group is too tired and the track to Torean is a bit horrific(the slowest use around 13hr-there are injury from trekking so a bit slow, while the fastest is around 5hr) i reach the base and wait for around 8hr for the guide to start anyting- i ate nearly everthing around this small town, i think some eat everthing already. noodle is the best to fulfill your stomach and taste but the rice is horific, the memories of camp site reappear-it's taste is maybe ok but when you reach the end you may not need to recognition of the hard time that you need to fill your stomach for 3d. The guide that should bring us, the fast group to the waterfall say' i don't know,' or 'wait for EM' or any promised that can't be fulfill, such as 'the car will bring you down in15min' but actually you need head guide to let anything to start that is quite troublesome. The result is i have to wait there more than my time treking down the moutain(rest 8hr and trek 5hr). At least the head guide, Em know the problem and apologised us and give us one free dinner meal around nearly 21.00pm, quite too late, but not bad for the things i feel before.
When we reach hotel around 22.00pm we have a small alcohol party with our friend, and sum up some of this problem.
BTW all 3day there are a little or no communication available so it's about each guide decision
翻译:“也许我们把他逼得非常粗鲁,也许副导游不太给力”——如果导游完全协调,并且可能需要一个至少会说英语或尝试理解副导游的导游,我可能会这样总结。进行更多交流。
这次带着很多孩子,有27人。需要 4 名向导。
-头导Em意味着你可以谈论一切。fluence英语可以要求可以改变计划能够把能做的事情谈成计划,可能不得不说,只要一个人就可以做到尽可能多的事情,这就很棒了。照顾每个人都被认为是很好的(通常是头导游会照顾大约6-8人。也许又会根据导游的数量+/-增加。这次我们来的人真的很多。导游是4个人照顾27个人)如果您是小团体前来,我强烈推荐本指南。但说到管理,就不行了。
我们的团体旅游需要 4 名导游(1 名导游和 3 名副导游)来进行这次旅行,当您需要比这 3 名副导游更多的英语导游或导游之间更多的沟通时,就会出现问题。
- 副向导第一——悠?我经常遇到的那个人是最快的向导。第三天,如果你在下午3点之前到达Torean,领队会承诺带我们去另一条徒步路线的瀑布。所以我们是最快的一组,从湖到托瑞安大约用了5-6小时(早上6点出发,中午12点之前到达托瑞安),而他在下午1点或2点左右到达托瑞安。当他到达托瑞安时,他没有带我们去任何地方,并说“等待 EM 或我不知道”(尽管我看到我们的司机在基地等了我们很长一段时间,是的,我们甚至看到祈祷小组在导游到达托雷亚之前开始从这里徒步几个小时)他已经比波特快了,所以可以吗?
- 第二个指南?
- 第三位导游苏玛? - 做任何事情之前都需要领队下令的人。尽管这个决定对游客来说更好(当我们第三天几乎到达基地时,有很多人已经使用过的ajak,可以支付额外费用,但他拒绝我们的徒步旅行者去基地并等待最后一次小组(也许要等mr.em?)
第四位向导是 Em。他是这个小组的计划者和领导者,决定做什么。如果他遇到麻烦或迟到了,指南就会崩溃!当你问其他导游比“是”或“不是”更难的时候,你可能得不到答案或者“你需要问Em。”最后一次徒步到基地是相当麻烦的。
徒步旅行
第一天我不知道流程,但是我们需要等待导游和人们完全满员,然后在上午 10 点左右在 Ringani 门口出发,这对于速度较慢的团体来说相当混乱,光线有点强,这一天我们已经向他们展示了有些人(大约 4-5 人)的徒步速度比他们最好的向导更快。这天我们晚上八点左右吃晚饭。因为营地里的食物都是新做的。
第二天我们去山顶,这次yuu和我们一起去,当我们的团队到达山顶时,已经很好了(这座山不适合没有准备的人,有4公里,你需要4小时+我才能到达)峰会)。但是当我们去湖边时,我不知道为什么,但他让我们跟随波特到湖边,这让我很好奇会发生什么。 (这一天我们团的很多人都太累了,无法去滑行点休息,所以导游决定在湖边休息,我不知道这对最后一天来说是好是坏。)下午 2 点左右吃午餐,因为我们需要等待食物煮熟,晚上 7 点左右吃晚餐,天色已暗。
第三天 这一天相当忙碌,我们的很多人都太累了,而且去Torean的路有点可怕(最慢的使用时间大约13小时-徒步旅行所以有点慢,而最快的大约5小时)我到达基地,等待大约 8 小时,导游开始做任何事情——我几乎吃遍了这个小镇周围的所有东西,我想有些人已经吃完了。面条是最能满足你的胃和味道的,但米饭很美味,露营地的记忆再次出现——味道可能还可以,但当你到达终点时,你可能不需要承认你需要填补的艰难时光你的胃3天。应该带我们去瀑布的向导,快速组说“我不知道”,或“等EM”或任何无法兑现的承诺,例如“汽车将在15分钟内带你下来” '但实际上你需要头部引导才能让任何事情开始,这是相当麻烦的。结果是我在那里等待的时间比徒步下山的时间还要长(休息8小时,徒步5小时)。至少导游 Em 知道问题所在,并向我们道歉,并在晚上 9:00 左右为我们提供了一顿免费晚餐,虽然已经太晚了,但对于我之前的感受来说还不错。
当我们晚上 10:00 左右到达酒店时,我们和朋友举行了一个小型酒会,并总结了一些问题。
顺便说一句,三天里几乎没有任何沟通,所以这取决于每个导游的决定